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"Higgs boson found."





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 07.04.2012 3:26pm
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Indiana Jerico
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40 years after it's been postulated, the last missing piece of the Standard Model has been confirmed.

Can someone explain to us who do not eat and breathe physics what this could mean to the world? I mean, aside from confirming that Einstein is a bad-ass. I feel that it is going to be significant, but to what degree?


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 07.04.2012 4:05pm


CaButler
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As long as it doesn't deal with time travel and CERN trying to take over the world, it's all good.




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 07.04.2012 6:02pm
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Atma Weapon
I Am Pure Energy

I guess Higgs will get a Nobel prize now, if he hadn't received one already.

I'm not a physicist either but apparently the Higgs field and boson explain why particles have mass, and why they don't all zoom around at the speed of light like photons do.

I would guess that a particle theory of mass gets us closer a theory of quantum gravity and the elusive graviton. Also dark matter has mass but doesn't interact with other particles, so maybe we could use the Higgs and it's effect to observe dark matter.

I read in one of Brian Greene's books that the Higgs field supposedly is what stopped inflation, so it should also be a huge discovery for cosmology.




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 07.04.2012 8:20pm


Dr Squirrel
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trust me, i'm a doctor




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 07.04.2012 8:32pm


Atma Weapon
I Am Pure Energy

Oh by the way, the concept that what we think of as "empty space" is actually a sea of particles pervading the entire universe: it rapes my brain.




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 07.04.2012 11:03pm


Wipwned
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The Guardian gives a decent video explaining the context around this.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/science/video/2012/jul/03/what-is-a-higgs-boson-video




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 07.05.2012 12:35am


Raphael
Eternal Lurker

This article talks about what really matters.
https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/4/3136652/cern-scientists-comic-sans-higgs-boson




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 07.05.2012 1:10am


Atma Weapon
I Am Pure Energy

I've been browsing the blogosphere today, and quite a few religious apologists are trying to discredit the discovery because it's statistical rather than certain. Two points:

1. The search for the Higgs has nothing whatsoever to do with God, either for or against. I would argue that no scientific investigation ever has, nor will it ever.

2. If statistical confidence is insufficient to claim knowledge of the physical world, we must also throw away every single other discovery based on observation.

I'm willing to live with the Problem of Induction if the alternative is either faith or nihilism.




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 07.05.2012 1:58am


Murasame
HALE YEAH



Raphael said:

This article talks about what really matters.
https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/4/3136652/cern-scientists-comic-sans-higgs-boson

I know this is a trivial thing to complain about, but oh my god. How does something like that happen in this day and age?




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 07.05.2012 7:14pm


Spidey
So Sigh Ety



Statistical evidence is what is used to build and design airplanes. guess those people will never fly on an airplane ever again




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 07.07.2012 7:26am


SuperSquall
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Atma Weapon said:

I've been browsing the blogosphere today, and quite a few religious apologists are trying to discredit the discovery because it's statistical rather than certain. Two points:

1. The search for the Higgs has nothing whatsoever to do with God, either for or against. I would argue that no scientific investigation ever has, nor will it ever.

2. If statistical confidence is insufficient to claim knowledge of the physical world, we must also throw away every single other discovery based on observation.

I'm willing to live with the Problem of Induction if the alternative is either faith or nihilism.
The big bang lines up reasonably well with a lot of religous creation stories.  If a person can't understand this without rocking their faith paradigm then they aren't even applying observation or logic to their own belief system.  Anything they have to say about others is even more insane.  That a layman would complain about the work being done at CERN suggests they are looking for problems with things they don't like rather than truth, as the people at CERN may not be perfect but they aren't a bunch of clowns either.

And personally I found the discovery of the Higgs Boson to be a somewhat religious experience - although most discoveries that shed light on cosmology are that way for me.




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