Rhaegar said: Fine, such stories are for the realm of fanfiction or personal journal entries. Not stories you plan to release to the entire world as a AAA title in a billion-dollar industry, whose audience is very much diverse. (To the point where adult women have surpassed teenage boys as a gamer demographic, actually.) And as an RPG in which you play multiple characters.
That comparison to The Sopranos is also rather disingenuous. Excluding a significant demographic, which FFXV is demonstrably doing and we have the evidence right in front of us, is NOT the same as imagined slights from a TV show based on the coincidential nationality of a few characters which in no way represent all Italians. Not that FFXV is going to be the caliber of video game that The Sopranos was a TV show, anyway.
Rhaegar said: I just don't think that FFXV, whatever it's trying to tell with a multiple playable cast with no diversity, has any place in 2015.
By the way, didn't you also argue it was OK for D&D to cut Arianne Martell out of Game of Thrones Season 5? That would figure.
Thirdtwin said: So I read this wall of text, and I'm just, I don't know what you're trying to say here. Like, I'm not saying this to be insulting or down on you or something, I just want to understand where you're coming from. So I'm just going to try to ask a few questions to maybe clarify what you're getting at here, because I'm kind of curious as to what might be going on. (I have a theory, which I may state in a later post, but that's just going to muddy the waters for now)
1) You think there is a problem with the "current idea of gender equality," but don't come right out and say what that problem is. Would you be willing to clarify?
2) Your statement regarding a "specific gender" is rather oblique. I.E. you do not name which gender is trying to prove superiority over the other. I have an even chance of being right or wrong if I ask, given you only present two choices, so: which gender do you feel is trying to prove its superiority?
3) What do "phobias" have to do with candid discussion about gender and video games? Also, what do you hold are the "strong" and "weak" points of each gender?
4) Are you aware that a "superiority complex" indicates a false front of superiority, whereby the person projecting superiority actually feels inferior deep down? Such that contrasting that with the "damsel in distress" concept as the theoretical empowered counterpart is actually incorrect? If you are, then why bring up two negative tropes in regards to portrayal of female characters?
5) Do you use tropes in the sense that TVTropes uses tropes?
6) What are the best qualities that females "naturally" possess? And to what sense of "nature" do you refer? (As an aside I should think it would be very difficult to breed a quality into a person that has already been born, but if your experience indicates differently then far be it for me to criticize you!)
7) When you begin your all-caps rant: are you using "imaginative" (sic) as a negative? Certainly I think a quality of imagination would actually help people project into and empathize better with story characters. Or might you have meant "unimaginative?" Not to be a grammar nazi or anything, just that you seem to have said exactly the opposite of what you meant if that is the case. It helps in cases like this to maybe forgo ranting in favor of considering your argument with some distance and rephrasing based on what you actually mean.
In any case I hope you do choose to respond, perhaps after taking a bit of a breather to reposition your thoughts into a more comprehensible framework. I'm interested in what you have to say, and how your dreams will aid the human race. Perhaps one day we may collaborate on further philanthropic achievement.
Lexx said: So, like I said, the cover of the book is what matters to you, not the words on the pages. Â Got it.
I also argued Quentyn Martell should be cut. And Victarion Greyjoy. And Euron Greyjoy. By my calculations, that's a gender ratio of 3:1, with males bearing the brunt, in terms of who I want cut from Game of Thrones. Does that also "figure"? EDIT: I just went back and looked. It turns out I argued those other characters should be cut at another forum -_-. If you want, I can post in the GoT thread my reasoning for those cuts.
Rhaegar said: Except in this case, the cover is going to have a major bearing on the content of the words. And I know it's going to suffer for it. Nothing you say is going to make me change my mind on opposing this game on principle.
Id82 said: I completely forgot about that tech demo. But I doubt it, its more or less just a short film tech demo to show what Squenix is capable of for their next gen final fantasys and probably has nothing to do with the main game.
Except in this case, the cover is going to have a major bearing on the content of the words. And I know it's going to suffer for it. Nothing you say is going to make me change my mind on opposing this game on principle.
Rhaegar said: Arianne is far more important to her locale's characterization and to the overall plot than the Greyjoys and Quentyn are to theirs, so, again, false equivalence.
