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Scientists measure Neutrinos to go faster than lightspeed



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 10.08.2011 10:57am


LB
Necromancer of Winning



Perhaps, the speed of light is a constant, yet cannot be measured in kmh. The type of mass changes the variable C in the equation.




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 11.04.2011 4:08am


Atma Weapon
I Am Pure Energy

LB said:

We are stuck in our solar system. Even at light speed, the closest star systems are decades away. The closest systems with planets are hundreds of years away. The possibility of finding intelligent life or a habitable planet is slim with this kind of time restraint.

If there is no "universal speed limit" it opens the door to other possibilities. I have never understood why, in open space, an object with renewable energy, couldn't constantly gain speed beyond light speed. It might take a long time, but acceleration causes the problems, not the actual speed. I also never took physics, just read a lot of Carl Sagan and Discovery magazine.
Einstein's equations state that the closer an object with mass gets to light speed, the more energy input it needs need to keep accelerating. So it would require an infinite amount of energy for even a single particle to reach light speed.

The principle has been proven true time and tim again for decades. In all likelihood there was an error in the experiment. Nobody should be excited about this until the result is confirmed independently by different investigators.

For this result to be true, either Einstein was wrong, or the particles never did go faster than light, but took a short cut through extra unseen dimension(s) of space.




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 11.18.2011 12:46pm


amaron
No answer, must be that deaf bitch.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236

T
hey uh, apparently did it again.




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 11.18.2011 8:08pm


Id82
Fuck Shit Stack.



Hmmm interesting, still might not be true but if they repeated it, it could be promising.




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 11.23.2011 3:51am


ManjiSanji
Insanity Mongoose

They could have simply made the same error twice, though I understand they were more stringent about this one.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but I still remain skeptical until another group has similar results.




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 11.23.2011 11:50pm
Thread Creator

Spidey
So Sigh Ety



Atma Weapon said:


For this result to be true, either Einstein was wrong, or the particles never did go faster than light, but took a short cut through extra unseen dimension(s) of space.

Isn't that part of the basis of string theory, that electrons can sometimes jump into another dimension before making a full orbit around an atom?




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 11.24.2011 5:45am


Arckanghel
Pirate.



Sort of ya. String theory involves there being quite a few dimensions and that parts of atoms are actually made of parts that reside in dimensions we don't currently take account for.




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 12.07.2011 2:18am
 (Edited on 12.07.2011 at 2:57am)

Atma Weapon
I Am Pure Energy

The extra dimensions in the traditional versions of string theory are absurdly small (something like 10 e-33 cm if I remember.) That is far too small to provide a short cut to account for such a big discrepancy.

The most likely explanation by far is a faulty experiment.

M-Theory predicts extra spatial dimensions that might be much larger, if I recall. The idea is that our universe is tethered onto a 3 dimensional sheet that floats in a fourth spatial dimension that we don't see. Almost all of the subatomic particals would be locked onto the sheet (or 3-brane) and could never leave it. Gravitons are claimed to be an exception and could travel into the other dimension. I have have no idea if the theory allows neutrinos to move from the brane, but it is an interesting idea.

For now I am sticking with the assumption of a flawed experiment until proved otherwise. Occham's razor.




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 12.08.2011 10:37pm


Kal
yes



CERN scientists expect 'first glimpse' of Higgs Boson.

I have absolutely no idea what this all means, but Pr. John Ellis has the best face ever.




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 12.08.2011 11:32pm
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Spidey
So Sigh Ety



It's as big as the rest of his body.




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