Rhaegar said: D&D's sexism is apparent to anyone who's seen all four seasons, especially 2-4. And I'm hardly the first to note it, on here or otherwise. In fact, other posters on here were even more unforgiving about it than me a few pages back in this thread. You made a completely disingenuous comparison and false equivalency. Too bad you didn't read the rest of that, or you would've known how those weren't comparable. And when you make such a comparison without thinking it through, then, yes, I expect the worst out of you. Because you haven't shown any better this entire "debate." Or the debate over FFXV, for that matter. I know it sucks to be told you're wrong, but man up on it when you're called out on it, thanks.
Rhaegar said: Oh, so you're one of those "devil's advocate" dicks, then? Oh, and I never said Arianne was MORE IMPORTANT than Euron. I said that she isn't interchangeable with another character the way Euron is for show adaptation purposes. Replacing Arianne with an aged and whitewashed Trystane changes completely the SIGNIFICANCE of the Dorne setting (unique inheritance rules, motive to protect inheritance, etc.). On the other hand, replacing Euron with, say, a Balon who unlike in the books is still alive doesn't really change the dynamics of the Ironborn plotline, since they're both old men who want to conquer shit. Balon could very easily sail for Daenerys without much significant changing, other than the personal bout with Victarion which, again, can be cut.
Rhaegar said: And as I said before, Show!Trystane citing those laws in the name of whatever juvenile motive he's no doubt going to have is not going to have the same impact as if Arianne was present to enable that plot herself. I really don't know how to make it any clearer to you.
And it's going to ruin that part of Season 5, even though you obviously don't seem to care. There's good changes and bad changes this show has made. This one is a bad change, a needless change, a lazy change and a sexist change. And yes, this is a case where the execution matters much more than the general skeleton of the plotline.
Rhaegar said: I just see that the decision to cut Arianne is the biggest in a long line of sexist changes that D&D have made in the transition from ASOIAF to Game of Thrones. It's been a trend, subtle at first, but getting tiresome, and now it's come to removing a significant POV character entirely from the story. And you seem perfectly content with that, making you part of the problem. I have the right to demand better. EDIT: No, I'm not implying that. I'm just taking your argument to another perfectly logical conclusion, using another example.
Nelfichu said: But seriously, I don't think Arianne getting cut is part of some sexist agenda.
Nelfichu said: But seriously, I don't think Arianne getting cut is part of some sexist agenda. I think it's to do with the fact that we're about to get a sizable chunk of new female characters as well as story consolidation. Arianne's story isn't that interesting, and there are more streamlined ways to reaching the same goal. That's it, simple and plain.
