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 04.11.2013 9:59pm


Raphael
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I wish I had the motivation to start working out, but I'm working at a computer 10 to 12 hours/day, every day, so when the day is done, the only thing I really feel like doing is sleep.




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 04.19.2013 6:05am


Soul Hunter
Ambitious but rubbish
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Raphael said:

I wish I had the motivation to start working out, but I'm working at a computer 10 to 12 hours/day, every day, so when the day is done, the only thing I really feel like doing is sleep.

I feel your pain.  It's hard for people with hectic day schedules to maintain a consistent exercise routine.  Extra commitment is needed.




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 04.19.2013 6:14am


Soul Hunter
Ambitious but rubbish
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Mavilu said:

S.H., I now exercise not so much to look trim or fit, because I think that I do want those things, but not enough to do all that is required at this age to achieve such lofty goals, now, when I think I don't want to stop what I'm doing and go exercise, I think of the future, of being 60 and be able to walk with a straight back, go up flights of stairs without collapsing, have balance so I don't fall and if I fall not to break a hip, I think of a healthy heart and arteries that if I take care of them, they'll repay me by not giving me a stroke or a heart attack when I least expect it, I think of independence from walkers/oxygen tanks/wheelchairs/nursery homes.

Bah, you're right, Mav.  It's been a common pitfall for me to use visible signs as goals when I workout when the truth of the matter is exercise is for staying healthy, not to look like a perfect living clothes hanger.  Okay I shall strive to make my kung fu stronger instead of leaner.




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 05.01.2013 8:17pm


kirbenvost
Give Life Back To Music



I started cycling to/from work for awhile and gave up due to weather... now that the weather's nice again, I should probably start again.

There's been some debate between my girlfriend and I regarding the actual health benefits of cycling.  See, she wants me to go to the gym.  I hate the gym.  I'd rather be outside doing something I enjoy instead of staring at a TV screen or watching the sweat drip off my chin on a cruddy stationary/lifting weights.

So, my ride home takes me up 4 lengthy hills enough to get my heart pumping for an extended period of time and break a bit of a sweat.  Not as intense as if I'm at the gym, but I'm definitely breathing hard and getting some good cardio.  There is of course usually a coast down on the other side, which may balance it out, who knows.

Anyway, is this going to be enough to at least trim off the small keg I've started if I do it 5 days a week, or is she right and I have to crunches and weights at the damned gym?




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 05.01.2013 8:53pm


Colinp42
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Crunches and weights will help muscle tone, but will not burn fat.

Well the more muscle mass you have the more calories your body burns in general, but it sounds like for your purposes cardio should really be your focus.








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 05.01.2013 8:56pm


kirbenvost
Give Life Back To Music



Right?  Okay, so I'm not crazy.  I need lots of cardio.  Granted, she wants me to buff up and for that I would need the gym, but at this point I'd rather get rid of the flab first.




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 05.01.2013 8:59pm


Alissiana
She Who Must Not Be Renamed



I lift weights three days a week. I lift heavy (for a girl.) This is because to get any real strength gains and good tone, you really have to lift a lot heavier than most of the girly magazines will have you believe (I think the only good use for Shape magazine is to throw it into a shredder. I get Robert Kennedy's Oxygen, though.) So I've been lifting for three years and I use between a 25 and a 35 pound dumbbell (per hand) depending on where I am in my routine (I cycle between lower reps and high weights and slightly lower weights and higher reps). I really need to get a 40 or maybe a 45 but when you start getting up that high they get expensive and it's not a priority given that we're moving soon. Every six months or so I take a week or two off completely. It seems to help. I would really like a nice barbell setup, but it's not happening in my apartment.

I also go to the gym a few days a week when I'm not on a project, at which I tend to like the eliptical and the bikes. Running isn't so good for my knees. I occasionally consider asking the dudes at the gym to spot me on a barbell rig, but that's never happened. They do gawk when I lift a thirty five pound dumbbell over my head like it's nothing, though. Woo!!!!

Lifitng's my priority, though, so when I have to choose between cardio and weights, weights win. I don't have a cardio setup at home but I have a pretty good dumbbell selection and a bench in the living room.




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 05.02.2013 6:48am


maximus asinus
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Colinp42 said:

Crunches and weights will help muscle tone, but will not burn fat.

Well the more muscle mass you have the more calories your body burns in general, but it sounds like for your purposes cardio should really be your focus.
From what I understand, excessive cardio and/or practicing cardio exclusively has been known to destroy existing muscle tissue. Your body needs the proteins in the muscle to provide energy. Without muscle there is nothing to burn off the excess calories which will turn to fat if not burned. So really, you need to have a muscle base to work from for cardio to be effective.




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 05.02.2013 6:52am


kirbenvost
Give Life Back To Music



Well, there's muscle there.  It's just that my primary reason for exercising is to get rid of fat, not build muscle mass.  Aside from maintaining general health, anyway.




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 05.02.2013 7:16am


maximus asinus
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kirbenvost said:

Well, there's muscle there. It's just that my primary reason for exercising is to get rid of fat, not build muscle mass. Aside from maintaining general health, anyway.
I wasn't trying to insult you, I thought Colin's post was a little misleading thats all. From how I read it, I thought he was suggesting that you work on cardio exclusively and I wanted to point out the health risks. Maintaining muscle mass is very important for good overall health.

Over working your body can actually cause your body to store calories instead of burning them off similar to how it would if you were starving yourself or depriving yourself of calories which will actually lead to an increase in body fat. It will also lead to a compromised immune system, and heart disease.




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 05.02.2013 8:20am
 (Edited on 05.02.2013 at 5:39pm)

kirbenvost
Give Life Back To Music



No offense taken, and good to know. I don't plan on working out hardcore by any means, so it'll probably be okay. Once I get to a place I'm happy with (abs again lol) or I'm no longer seeing results I can switch it up. Right now I'd rather just ride my bike.




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 05.02.2013 11:23am


Soul Hunter
Ambitious but rubbish
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Rediscovering the joys of boxing: think you're a movie star, never need to go anywhere, sweat in torrents.  I can get my shirt all soaked up in 15 minutes.  The only downside is at some point I still get jaded, the way any routine activity makes me.  That's what my gym membership is for, then.  Diversifying.

The only thing I need now is consistency.




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 05.02.2013 12:07pm


maximus asinus
Registered Member

Consistency is a bitch. In the beginning I found it nearly impossibly to go to the gym by myself. I tried to convince friends to commit to the gym as well in hopes that a group would keep everyone motivated (didn't work). Eventually I forced my own hand by signing up for a personal trainer twice a week. The money I put down made me feel obligated to go. The results I got after even a month kept me motivated. The schedule I had to keep with the trainer turned it into a routine after I was done.

Long story short, get a GOOD personal trainer if you're serious about staying healthy and have a hard time committing.




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 05.02.2013 1:22pm


Alissiana
She Who Must Not Be Renamed



Consistantcy does get easier. I've hit the point now where if I don't lift, I start to feel weird. LIke, really weird. My week to two weeks off a year can be heck. It's good to do it, because you want your body to REALLY FULLY heal now and then, but I spend it going "I WANT TO LIFT. I WANT TO LIFT. I WANT TO LIFT ARGH."

But I was always pretty good about being disciplined. I like to work out and I've been lifting for several years, and habits get pretty engrained after six or seven months.




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 05.02.2013 3:45pm


Colinp42
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Yeah - kirb honestly for your purposes you might want to think about getting a quick exercise DVD.  I have 8 Minute Abs and Arms and a couple 10 pound weights - was perfect for when I was trying to slim down fast.  And it has cheesy porn music throughout, so bonus!




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