Murasame said: [snip] I'm also gonna go out on another limb and suggest that asking for things politely is a completely shitty way of asking for change. It's also a super shitty way of promoting the cause, too. It's navel-gazing bullshit that sits comfortably over there where the majority of gamers don't have to deal with it, where if you sit in your comfortable world of the status quo, you don't have to deal with it. That's shitty. For some people, some people who like games, just like you, they have to deal with it, whether they like it or not. Why the fuck is their experience in gaming any less important than yours? Do their dollars mean less? Arguably, since they (statistically) have less of them, I'd say their dollars mean more. 40% is a large percent - casual market or no. 50% is not far off. (further, if we keep up with the shitty attitudes) It just fucking infuriates me that the objectification of women in games can just be waved off so lightly. It's awful to be reduced to an object, a stereotype, because of something you have no control over. Dismissed anger because you're short - a nerd because you wear glasses - unhygenic because you don't shave your armpits - a basement dweller because you play video games. It's just so fucking backward that the gaming community - of all communities - is essentially telling ladies "hey, you're not important because you're a minority. Suck it up." Bull. Shit. [and snip]
Lexx said: I can't believe how upset people are getting over this. I never had any clue that there was this level of emotional turmoil running beneath saving Peach from Bowser.
reido said: I can't speak for everyone, or anyone other than myself, but-- Gaming as hobby is an ingrained aspect of my life. I don't get the same mental/emotional response from TV or movies (though I enjoy both) as I do from a well-crafted videogame, or even one crafted in mediocrity. I am a gamer in that playing video games is my primary hobby, my primary source of entertainment, and the source of entertainment that I understand best and feel the strongest about. I am passionate about gaming. I would love to share that passion with my children. And those children? Are both female. I would love to share that passion with any future partner I might have. And as a heterosexual man, those partners? Will all be female. So as a person who feels passionate about gaming how could I not feel "emotional turmoil"* about improving the states of the gaming industry and community to make them more appealing to the people I most want to share my passion with? TLDR: I want to share my love of vidjagames with my kids, but I want to do it in a world where this** isn't*** a thing that happens. *I use a direct quote here and I think it makes me sound a little condescending, but that's not my intent. **This is about the over-the-top example I could think of off the top of my head. Also even just barely dipping my toes into the comments on this article and another one related to it filled my mouth with the taste of bile. ***[edit]Holy lack of contraction making this sentence mean the exact opposite of what I'm saying, Batman!
Kal said: For recent examples, look at the Dragon Crown controversy: criticize ridiculous female character designs > get called a fag by character designer.
CaButler said: Though that itself got resolved very quickly with the character designer apologizing for it.
